In fact, what investigator Tracy had written in his notes is that the heart monitor jumped because of excitement or intense fear. And if the fact that cops lied about the gun to close the deal did not bother you, it bothered me because this is not due process. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986. Diane said that Cheryl was laying down on the front floorboard with the passenger seat pushed back. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. McPherron: I mean, it was plastered all over. There isnt a whole lot known about where Steve Downs is these days. Reasonable doubt is most certainly lacking. Press J to jump to the feed. This test confirmed Diane had not held a gun. Page 40 of Case History. You didnt know that?? I mention in the blog that Dianes mental health is in question so it is obvious that her encounter with her long lost daughter was going to be difficult. And to try not to bash Dianes Downs character and stick to evidence instead. No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. He strung her along, played with both womens emotions, and after saying he would join her in Oregon, reneged and stayed with his wife. Diane had a few lovers, which Knick refused to acknowledge (Appendix 81, pages 1508, 1520). There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. Regina, I love your comment! No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. Whats next? No way. I talked about her still being locked up, all these years later, because I really want to know is it because we believe she will commit more crimes or is it because we need more revenge? And when kids are hurt, emotions keep flowing endlessly. How about dads side of the family? Everyone deserves peace. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. Seems like she was her worst enemy. They dont need to be adopted and have their entire identity changed. This whole case is flawed. 2. I am not saying that Diane was a saint or Ann Rule a demon. This is Budhu's story, as told to Kelly Burch . Christie Downs was eight-years old when she was injured and nine-years old when she testified. So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter.A little investigation would not hurt. And she went back to her parent's home in Arizona. Since his ex wife was sentenced to life in prison, he has not reappeared in public life nor has he given any television interviews about his family. A new trial would be out of the question, so to me, parole would be the solution. I also found it curious that when Diane was first eligible for parole she was allowed to apply every 2 years thereafter until she either gets paroled or dies in prison. On her way to the hospital,she was followed by someone who said she was going slow, but Diane said she was driving fairly fast. Great blog post, thank you. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. I am not sure of the exact timing of Dianes accusations but the Downs family did not only include the grandparents and they were never considered even before this nonsense. Diane then replied, so, put her back on the stand and make her tell the truth. He said he would when it was his turn, but never did. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. She threw her keys yet was able to take off right away?? She felt fulfilled when she was pregnant because she believedit was the road to unconditional love. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. You need to have your own voice," she said. I appreciate this whole blog just want to give you a heads up. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture. No conflict of interest there? I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial: speculation She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. Anyways. but I think there are some extreme cases that knock women in a bad psychotic way that can be life threatening. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. As a result, joint legal custody which means parents share in the decision-making 1 is becoming the default decision in many family court systems. He needed, now more than ever, to vacate the area asap. He should have let someone else handle the case or let someone else adopt the kids. A. I was still living in the house, yes, sir. She has come a long way. And, one of them was her ex-husband, the father of the children that Diane had shot. They are now leading their private lives as adults. This website supports restorative justice, so of course it leans towards sentences that are not life without parole if it is supported by a warden and mental health specialists. If the answer is, to keep the public safe, then I call BS. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. Are her parents still living (I know they were a few years ago)? Whether or not Steve Downs was in some way behind the shooting, the man who fired the weapon was a stranger to Diane. Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. Surprisingly, Fred Hugi actually looks quite different. Lise,,,,, yes you did. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. Search within r/halo . And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? Conflicting reports say Downs also acted as a surrogate during her fourth pregnancy, giving birth to a daughter after her trial in 1984. So move on. Are you looking for more information about Ryan Eggold? Why am I not arguing the facts of the trial? Her son ended up in jail and ONeils children accused him of neglect and bad parenting. There was a lot of evidence pointing at OJ. Where to begin? Maybe I'm dramatic but I no longer want to watch it . It sounds like Diane was trying to tell her to stay away from bad influences. "We are obviously disappointed at the verdict. The judge who took away her children presided over her criminal trial. This was very stressful. The State produced a witness (Ms. Patterson) to testify that Diane Downs entered the hospital bathroom, left the door open, and ran water in the sink (Appendix 87, page 476). It was never a slam dunk. It should have raised a red flag concerning her mental stability or the possibility that more people were involved. A very reasonable request that was rejected. The GSR? They never found the gun and she showed no signs of having fired one. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. There is also a critical shortage of Foster Carers internationally, so that the Hugis offered to take the children in could be viewed as altruistic. Kenyans Compare Rachel Ruto, Margaret Kenyatta's Looks in Maasai Outfits, Kim Kardashian Looking for Love Again, Wants to Date Someone Who Isn't Famous, Kind Officers Drop Protesters in Nairobi CBD after Being Released from Central Police Station, Oburu Oginga Hints at Raila Odinga Vying for Presidency in 2027: "He's Not Retired", Naftali Kinuthia Says He Regrets Killing Lover Ivy Wangeci Using Axe: "Too Angry to Think". So until today, people still don't know much about him, and his whereabouts remain a mystery. The DA adopting the children is an integral part of this and definitely needs to be included in the blog. According to Oregon law, this would have to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Diane provided both. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. . You wondered at times, which side he was working for. On June 2nd, 1983, Juvenile Court Judge Gregory Foote held a hearing to take Christie and Danny away from ALL blood family (thus isolating them). And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. I am glad that some articles remain. So it would be logical to conclude that it would have left residues if anyone had shot at least 6 times. I dont know either if she is guilty or not, but I believe there is a reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances. 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. This really makes me angry, that prosecuter and judge should be sued along with the writter. The notes taken daily by the nurses became a point of contention at trial. And if he really was attached to them and wanted to offer them a permanent home, it means he was unfit to be the prosecutor in this case. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. And once again, considering that she was diagnosed as bipolar, did not help her cause. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. Here are the pros and cons of sole legal custody. If Oregonians were not all convinced at first, the media and the crown made sure they would be. They never tried to reunite them with family. To this day, there is not enough evidence to prove her guilt or innocence. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. The unicorn, the song, her personality. I see that Downs had a parole hearing in late 2020 but I cant see the outcome. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. If you read the blog, it is because of the lie told by prosecutor Hugi that ignored the assessment of her therapist Dr. Jamison and was condemned by the psychiatrist that they were convinced to find her guilty. She was more interested in the affection of men, which on that fateful day in 1983 gave her an idea. Why didnt they mention that he said a bad man and whatever else in his condition when they knew it was not possible? However, in 1980, the couple divorced. Mr. This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. What this is evidence of is one more piece of the overwhelming amount of bias that was involved from the start of the case. Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. As usual, Diane had resorted to the soothing comfort of a pregnancy to pretend life would get better; she would create a nest around her, come hell or high water. If it doesnt matter to you, it should. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. The fact that there was a rush to judgment, an investigation targeting only one result and a media coverage often presenting lies is very bothersome. Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. We already know that. I hope they have. Not right at all. Downs: And there was a big reward, too. Click 'See First' under 'Follow' Tab to see Tuko.co.ke news on your FB Feed. To Lori What about the facts of the case? Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. It was not the right gun. Sheriffs Deputy Roy Pond admitted in court that he had already concluded that Diane was guilty and stopped following leads on the orders of his sergeantthree weeks after the shooting. It became more about despising Diane Downs than investigating fairly. People have always been wondering about Steve Downs, Danie Downs ex-husband. He separated from his wife and was going to follow Diane who, by now, had decided to move and work in Oregon to be closer to her parents. I am not from USA, never have been there, but my impression is that in USA media are far more powerful than the justice system and rational thinking is crushed by easy emotional moods, stereotypes and a hunger for violence coated in a pompous moral attitude. The authorities believed that the children's father was not a good fit to look after the children after what they had endured when their mother tried to murder them. Q. But you sure did comment like a true asshole, huh? But in my opinion, it shows how Diane was disturbed and could also have found a better path in life if given the chance and the right support. Just a thought. I have researched the case and pointed out discrepancies and the fact that it was not the slam dunk that they were portraying. Mostly, because it was poorly investigated and they focused on Diane solely the minute they met her. It was a fairly new science at the time so thats all it took to find him not guilty. It would be about November 20th that you would have gone back with Charlene, what, the next day? At that timeand now!! Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? I am just curious. It sounds pretty fair to me. Steve was among the few individuals who saw Elizabeth Diane as a beautiful young lady rather than an outsider. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. How was DD able to get away from CK and get the keys back into the ignition without there being more attempts on her life? Dianes brother, James, sat in court one day andnoticed Foote looking at Hugi before ruling on an objection. If you are not bothered by lack of due process and a prosecutor making up psychiatric labels and adopting kids from a defendant or a judge who gets promoted from family court to criminal court to hang Diane, I am sure bothered by it. They checked her shoes and they were clean. Women who were somewhat normal begore, get pregnant, have the baby, then drown it a toilet, kill or beat the the baby in the first year..shaking or other means..its less often then notbut better believe these type of cases are reported constantly now on social media. Brewer stood ready to testify in June 1991, that it was because of Prosecutor Hugis lie that he changed his mind to convict and that he alone was responsible for silencing the dissenting votes of two other jurors (Appendix 97). Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times. If Hugi got attached to the children, why did he wait 2 years when little Christie was starting to say she had no clue who shot them? Within a few weeks, a judge had placed the surviving kids, Christie and Danny, in protective custody. Mr. If you have an opinion on drugging a child to make her talk, a judge presiding over a criminal case when he was in family court and removed the children from the defendants or the forensics, ballistic, etc. He asked her for the car keys and she pretended to throw them away to distract him. No excuse there. Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. The whole blog claims the trial was flawed. Nobody near to help. They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. Steve Downs had allegedly stolen this gun from a friend named Billy Proctor, but after it was found and the ballistics did not match, Bill suddenly remembered keeping it only for a day before exchanging it for another Ruger automatic at a gun show in Mesa; which now meant that the gun that Diane allegedly used to shoot herself and the children, was still apparently nowhere to be found. In 1999, a Board Certified Psychiatrist practicing in Oakland, California wrote a letter to the parole board on behalf of Diane Downs to explain how things had changed since 1984 when she was diagnosed with a severe personality disorder. He did not consider her a risk factor at all and believed she would do well if released into society, because she had no prior history of violence and never had a problem with violence or bad behavior while incarcerated. Check your inbox to be the first to know the hottest news. Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? There were a few calls and on one occasion,Christie said They just, they knew that, you know, that she did it and I should say that she did it. When asked if she thought her mother did it or someone else did it, she replied, I dont know if she did it or someone else did, cause I dont know. Then Angel says: They told you that was the right thing to do, huh? Christie responds, But like the person, my attorney, and thats who Fred is, that Im living with, hes the guy, he works for me.. There are documented cases of suicides where the person has no GNR, as well as murder cases. https://t.co/cPfs75obUg pic.twitter.com/uSnlFF2IRw. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. The media keeps talking about several escapes, but there was only one. Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that they only had a few months to get Christie to talk, otherwise they could not keep her away from her mother any longer. You need real evidence in court. Up. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. Her parents Willadene and Wes were old school Baptist parents who raised her under strict guidelines without much warmth but complete devotion. How could they expect a normal mother/daughter reunion between a beaten inmate whose mental health had degraded and a daughter trapped in this insanity? The fate of Steven Downs, a 47-year-old nurse from Auburn, Maine, is now in hands of a 12-person jury in Alaska. Where are Steve Downs children now? She told ABC, The impact of Diane Downs being my mom has altered the course of my life so many times. I found your blog to be very well written, informative and interesting. Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? If you think you would have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico, why bother? What followed was a tragedy subject to many interpretations. Christie became the star witness against her mother and who could resist such a touching testimony? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. But strangely, they took no photos of the crime scene and did not lift fingerprints from the drivers side of the car. They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. What I believe doesnt matter at all. The authorities wanted to see them mourn and fall apart. As it was getting dark and the young ones fell asleep in the car, their mother decided to head home. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular. Her older two children have remained out of the public eye. But I am so tired of the enough time has been served and other criminals have been paroled. The fact that she was driving five miles per hour to the hospital says it all as a mother myself, I dont care how hurt or mentally damaged I was, I would drive that car 100 MPH to get my children to safety. Her atrocities made national news, but one person that everyone has been wondering about is Diane Down's ex-husband. In Oregon, in 1983, she shot her 3 children, 1 daughter died. Leaving out a lot of info that should be included and presenting a very one sided take on these things. As an adoptive parent I cant even imagine trying to justify to my daughter our adopting her if we had in any way been a part of the case to terminate her from her bio family. Unfortunately couldnt really do anything at that point, as the movie was not VHS yet, it only aired that oncein late 89. Hugi got the evidence needed to convict after numerous meetings with Christie. Speculative? Q. It kinda scared me, the thought that mommy could shoot me, like this mommy did. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? I do not declare her innocent. But, their marriage was far from what either of them had expected. So obviously, she was the prime suspect. After divorcing her wife, Diane Downs, in 1980, Steve was hardly part of their life. Contemporary family finding principles argue that a child is best nurtured by parents, then immediate family members, extended family members, spiritual family (Godparents), close friends, etc. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. Their theory was very shaky. She did it. This unhealthy marriage survived and became a daily struggle. The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie Small Sacrifices was known for her epic battles with lover Ryan ONeil. Nice to see this blog is still active in 2017, being a lot of groupsmessage boards and such, on subjects like this has no activity for years. She had been the bread winner for most of her marriage, and never wavered in her desire to bring financial stability to her family. She was not in the car when her children were shot. In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. Diane was in the hospital for a bone graft from June 2nd until June 6th, 1983. Wasnt it speculative on their part? By the time the incident had happened, it seems as if the two had parted ways . And after Diane left Arizona she didnt call Knick to inquire about his love, but rather about when he would repay the $500 (Appendix 81, pages 1479-1480). Click here to read the complaint. However, their marriage wasnt as great as they anticipated as Steve was a player and quite irresponsible and immature at the time. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial parent after the divorce. She found out who her biological mother was when she was 11 years old, ABC reported. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. Three weeks after the crime, Judge Foote from family courts, removed Danny and Christie from the care of Diane Downs and her family.
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