The general answer is most certainly yes however there are a few considerations. Not much difference really. In fact, it uses S&W Shield Plus magazines. A GLOCK is a striker fired pistol with about a 5.5-pound OEM trigger pull that has incorporated into the trigger--in the form of a lever--and when it is engaged blocks the trigger from moving rearward. What is your birthday including time and birth location? But that would be true for almost ANY gun that didnt have a manual safety engaged. on second thought I dont wanna know. There are any number of guns out there with firing systems that, if dropped, will fire a round under the hammer. The 16 chamber cylinder is specifically a reference to Kevin Costner in Open Range. Glock developed their patented Safe Action System which will not allow the gun to be fired without a finger on the trigger and a dedicated trigger pull. But the real benefit is in the noise. Say, if you can make that mistake (and you did), are you willing to admit that maybe, just possibly, youve mad other mistakes? I still counted 16, but when he starts fanning it gets a little hard to keep track. Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered. A GLOCK does not have an external manual safety. The firearm entered Austrian military and police service by 1982 after becoming the top performer in reliability and safety tests.. Glock pistols have become the company's most profitable line of products, and have been supplied to . They will not fire unless someone puts their finger on the trigger and squeezes. When suddenly a rabbit rushes out of the brush, I sometimes forget to switch off the safety. Frankly, most of us should be more concerned about our cholesterol anyway. Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it?, And, again, absolutism that is far too easy to refute. A good 1/2 inch drive ratchet upside the head will drop most anyone like they were a sack of feed corn. You always have time to do that. As if every act of negligence is a deliberate act. Pray the opponent was just carrying a Taser and not a knife. Amen! @ mark s: +1 here. Mar 8, 2017 (Edited by Moderator) The LCP II is just as safe to carry as any striker-fired gun on the market without a thumb safety, including every Glock and most M&P's etc. You shoud not count on having both hands available while being attacked. . It is a DAO and . Ask the famous Black Athlete Plaxico Burress that did that in a New York restaurant a number of years ago. Usually I just get to see Colt SAAs with 16 chamber cylinders. Well, its nice to know Im negligible. I carry my Jericho the same way. The finger does not go in the trigger guard until Im ready to fire. But no self-defense. Training happens every time we do something, no matter if its shooting, driving, or eating. Obviously carrying concealed greatly reduces the odds of your gun being taken, but that doesnt mean that precautions arent in order. By all means, carry what you are competent to handle effectively and safely. Picture if I was to just strike a primer laying on a hard surface, with a hand held hammer, manually. - I'm too old to still think I know everything. Until I do, its one in the chamber with safety engaged and hammer down on a DA/SA pistol. As a top performer in reliability and safety tests, it quickly entered into the Austrian military and police service. I am the same way, my kids randomly jump, hug or accidentally collide with me on a regular basis. Glock 17. Eventually, revolver designs changed. Some of these points were deliberately avoided for reasons Ill get into. It became the norm to carry with an empty chamber. Holstered the Glock like that into kydex holster. I dont believe anyone has the right to keep me from holding, using and appreciating these art forms. In the case of a fast draw in a conflict, you dont have time to check, but you still have time to keep your finger out of the trigger guard. -John Muir. But now I get 18! Its decocker is better than a thumb safety. Ive been known to knock over a glass of milk , spill my coffee down my chin , have people toot their horn at me from time to time , you get my point . As for me on striker fired Im sure they are just as safe as any other design I just like to see whats going on, . Always, recent training with Instructor who suggested to always carry chambered. I home carry, but as far as pistol lockboxes go, I recommend the Fort Knox (top opening lid) and the Sentry Safe with biometric lock (also has a key and keypad). Kids are grown, hoping dad doesnt ever need to move in, not the reverse lol, and I have em where I need em to be and they are ready when I am. Youll likely only be in one or two gunfights at most, in an entire lifetime. Weight: 22.9 oz. And I include all the copy cat weapons as well as they are as common as the common cold. Of course my Smith .38 has EVERY chamber with a round in it. Have you ever negligently turned down the wrong way of a one way street? As someone from MS you gotta tell me where this full auto shoot was. Consider this, if everyone carried a weapon in condition 3, how many mass shootings would there be? That may be true but it is also irrelevant, since the *actual* cause of the negligent discharge is*negligence. So anybody can mess with anybody here at any time, by pretending to be somebody else. The pistol was designed to be carried with a round in the chamber with the safety on or off as your choice. Even some shotguns will do that. For the most part.if the gun goes offsomeone pulled the trigger. You are not going to change my mind. Nice catch. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY AND ONLY ONE WAY TO CARRY A GLOCK SAFELY AND THAT IS WITH AN EMPTY CHAMBER PERIOD AND THERE CAN BE ZERO ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF YOUR MENTAL FACULTIES AND NOT LIVING IN A NARCISSISTIC FANTASY WORLD OF GLOCK UTOPIA. Old model Ruger Blackhawks which have not been converted should be carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber, just like Colt SAAs and other vintage and replica SA revolvers. * The innovative design of the hybrid steel-polymer slide chambered in our first .22 caliber round provides a lightweight and low recoil functionality for optimal control. I doubt it. Various firearms but could go to dagger, spear, sword and buckler, longsword, or smallsword if for some reason one of those seemed like a good idea. We can talk about the merits of being able to shoot effectivly one handed. While the bad guy is picking up the decoy gun and trying to shoot you with it, you draw your real piece with a round loaded. For those afraid of carrying cocked and locked or striker-fired guns, the XD-E is a better choice than chamber-empty carry. Theoretically, the slide safety could be accidentally disengaged in your holster rendering a cocked and locked 1911 significantly more susceptible to a ND when drawn given the user didnt know the safety was disengaged. . Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Only, dumb guys wouldnt understand that. On Firefox for Windows, it just goes to the top of the page, but it will still get the newest comments. For instance, you have Rugers Blackhawk and Vaquero models, Heritage Manufacturings Rough Rider series, replicas made by Pietta, Uberti and Cimarron and so on. Safety rule number 1 a gun is always loaded. Wouldnt it be actually quicker to rack the slide than to retrieve your weapon from a locked box? israeli carry is stupid. At Incognito Concealment, we're confident we have the right holster for you. If youre going to pocket carry, get a pocket holster. In a holster made for the gun you carry, making sure its unobstructed is a quick check. FNS9-C. You have to train how you'll fight and fight how you train. When I was a lot younger, I was riding horses with some friends. This makes it about five ounces lighter than another popular 9mm Luger gun, the Glock 19. Any striker fired pistol that doesnt incorporate some type of manual safety has the same chance of a ND as a Glock. Pray the gay away gov. I have no issue using any of my Glocks as a SD gun, nor do I have any issue using any of my 1911s, any of my revolvers, or any of my other guns. Hes squirmy and all over the place. Hm. I felt a few of the points that were raised had enough merit to discuss further. On TTAG anyone can use any name at any time, and that makes it really confusing. You hit the nail on the head with "comfortable", but that is subjective. Either you will practice with chambered, or chamber empty. Save Share. Considering the odds of handling a particular weapon every day for years or possibly the rest of your life hoping to never have a brain fart in the process, and many people wisely choose another option. Old school, extract, thumb, trigger finger, rinse n repeat often until autopilot takes over. If you need to defend yourself, you cannot afford the time to rack the slide. and self styled know it alls. No permits needed, no interference from the State. She was brave. I agree about the Colt SAA. i carry mostly to counter the mass shooting incident the type of which where afterward everybody says if there had only been a good guy with a gun and i will more likely than not have time to draw the weapon and charge it while i get my ooda loop going. Being an *untrained* klutz is something entirely different. The Glock handgun is the favored handgun of police worldwide. If you want one of it, you must like it, so why wouldnt you want more? I still dont get any notifications that someone has replied to any of my comments. this aint 1902 with a Colt .38 Long primitive revolver and you probably aint riding a horse in pursuit of cattle thieves. You just have to get comfortable with it. Why would you do that more in a Glock than in *any other firearm*? You have entered an incorrect email address! When I go hunting, I carry my Remington 700, bolt action rifle with the striker discharged on an empty chamber. Running this way I am even more vigilant about how I handle the gun. And that is the key to any methodology, simply having the proper training. to all you sanctimonious what iffers and self styled know it alls out there: And you should be, too. True dat. Not the first time I have seen you feed the gun grabbers agenda either. Because they have no external safety, Glocks are quicker to draw and fire. The Glock handgun is the favored handgun of police worldwide. Wait a second, so youre telling me that I shouldnt keep my home defense gun in condition 3 but instead have it in condition 1 and put it in a lock box? It prevents the trigger from being manipulated unless a finger is pressing on it. Note, the sentry safe does have a security vulerablity that can be mitigated by covering a hole with stainless steel tape. Glocks are completely safe handguns even though they dont have external safety. If the trigger safety is not . Because it has no external safety that means you are only 5 lbs away from making the gun fire. I answered the asked question. . The problem is not with the Glock trigger, the problem is a lack of training on the part of the operator. That chit will get you *illed in a real shtf. Lets talk about the internal safety features and the facts of why Glocks are great handguns.Jordy Bucks well worn Glock 20 is carried daily. 1911s are traditionally carried empty chamber (probably a bad idea) or cocked and locked: hammer cocked and slide mounted safety engaged. Then I chambered a round. You might like it. To fire the pistol, the trigger safety and the trigger itself must be deliberately depressed at the same time. Perhaps you could write one yourself even. I have a CCW and am carrying the Glock in a Galco Stow-n-Go IWB holster. Ho Hum, Well written THAT is a significant, even dangerous, error to be stating as fact. So you are in reality arguing that if someone makes a *negligent mistake*, the Glock is more likely to discharge than another firearm. I have trained chambering on the draw and while it is less effective it still gives me options. The most likely time a kid will get their hands on my gun is if it somehow gets knocked loose from my [high-quality, proper-retention] holster during movement in tight spaces while I am wearing it. Some people were never meant to have a handgun I suppose. Another difference is that the Equalizer is only available chambered for the 9mm Luger, where the Shield EZ can be had in .380 Auto, 9mm Luger and .30 Super Carry. Good on you guys for responding here. Bottom line: For *any* firearm, you have to *put your finger (or some other object) INTO the trigger guard to fire the weapon. Carry without one in the pipe for a while to get used to it. Its common for someone to quickly raise a gun and try to shoot, just to realize the safety was in the on position keeping it from working. The Israelis didn't invent the practice but it got the name from Israeli armed forces policy. It's a mental block you will have to outgrow. In that case, the argument that any gun is better than no gun might be correct but thats as far as it goes. There are some days (summer, mostly) when I carry the Walther PK380. The Glock Gen 4 and Gen 5 models have actually ended up being popular with civilians and self-defense shooters alike. Always eith one in the chamber, hammer down and safety off. Sometimes I ask a question. 4) In such a rush and excitement even in a holster such as the case in Florida the police officer shot himself and the wall in a school and was clearly not in fear or stressed, so in all counts safety and training cause in the heat of the moment you may grab fast and shoot yourself.